Littérature anglaise : the characters and their transformations

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Voilà, j'ai bouclé mes deux notions, j'aimerais donc avoir votre avis sur the characters and their transformations !
Si vous trouvez des fautes, n'hésitez pas à corriger et je suis preneuse si vous avez des suggestions !



My notion is, the characters and their transformation. First of all I will give a quick definition, a characters can be flat, minor or major and developed with depth. He will face some transformation, which could changes his characters, or his way to live. So how do the transformation impact the characters ?
To answer, I will help myself with three texts, Frankenstein by Mary Shelley, Ghost by Paul Auster, Waiting for Godot by Samuel Becket and a poster from the movie The man who made a monster.




First of all, Ghost was written by Paul Auster and realesed in 1986. His literary genre joins in the postmodernism which make a parody of the research of sens in life that we spot in the modernism. So, the story is about a detective named, Blue. He's a private investigator and are employed by a man called White, for following his husband named Black. He becomes a kind of slave for White. It's here that the transformation appeared. Basically Blue is a detective, he has the capacity to recognizing an imposter and here he didn't saw that somethings was wrong with White. He became a doll, living in White appartment, receiving incomes from White, he finaly lost his free-will. We can think that this text is a kind of parody, tell by an omniscient narrator, because of the name of the characters which are colors. But, we can also relate this to the miss of identity, because names are actually a part of our identities. There is also a mise en abyme in the novel, that is to say that we have a novel in an novel. So, here, the impact of the transfomation is visible, that is to say that we have a "man"who passes from a private investigator to a personnal investigator. He became a kind of puppet and lost his family, friend and in a certain way his job, because he only worked for White and got his incomes from him.


Frankenstein by Mary Shelley was realesed in 1816. This novel enter in the ghotic trend, often describe as a genre written by women for women. That evolves with the times, going from simple horror stories populated by cursed destinies and monster to stories about the psychological aspect of human. The written style is really sustained as expected from the 19 century, with some specific word as bier. This story is about Victor Frankenstein and his wife, just after their marriage. Here, there is different kind of transformation, firstly, there is the death of Elizabeth, usually, during the nuptial night, people proove their love to each other, but not here. Vincent asked Elizabeth to go alone in the room of the couple. And instead of being loved in this room, she was killed by the monster. So she pass from life to death. Victor him, must face the death of his wife, him who was married one day, became a widower, because of the creature that he created. The monster him, jeer of all this misfortunes, because he successed to kill the woman that stole his creator from him. The transformations impact more on their life that on their nature even if facing death is emotionnaly difficult. I can also add a poster of the movie, The man who made a monster which illustrate perfectly the text by the gloomy and dark visual. We have different representation of all the characters, often Victor and Elizabeth are together and seems really happy, but the monster is alone and he seems to feel alone, he realeases a kind of loneliness and sadness.



Waiting for Godot was writen by Samuel Becket in 1952, this theater piece made a lot of noise by her absurdity. The litterature trend in the theater of the absurd which designe particular play and absurd fiction. To sum up, two men Estragon and Vladimir are waiting for someone who's called Godot, we don't really know if he's a real person. The scene takes place in an empty decor, with only a kind of dead tree. I think that the place was made like that to obligate the spectators to only take a look at the characters and their discussions. We face a meaningles dialogue with small sentences and sometimes some pum, like the one with the weeping willow. Here the transformation is really hard to find but if we look further, we can spot a change of behavior. At the beginning, it was Estragon who was asking Vladimir when Godot will come and after it's Vladimir who was asking him. Here, the transformation is more a kind of game, one asks a question, the other answer, and after they make the opposite, and we can say that this is absurd because if the other asks this question, it's because he doesn't know the answem, so it's and endless game. But, this transformation doesn't really impact the characters, because for waiting someone that you don't know you must be crazy, and it's what they are, crazy.


In conclusion, the transformation has a big impact on the characters, for Vincent Frankenstein it was his love who were taken away from him, so yes, this kind of thing impact the life. But sometimes, the characters are actually so strange or crazy, that the transformation doesn't really impact, like in Waiting for Godot. So, I think that the impact depends of the personnality of the characters.
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Je lirai cela demain . Tu parles bien de ton deuxième oral de LELE ? Alors tu as "bouclé" ton deuxième thème…

Le terme "notion " est réservé aux 4 notions de LVI et LV2

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Très bien merci !
Oui c'est mon deuxieme thème !
Aah d'accord, je penserais à ne pas confondre le jour de l'oral !
Attention, il s'agit d'un oral donc il n'est pas forcément utile de tout rédiger, il vaut mieux noter les grandes idées et les exemples, sinon cela peut donner à l'examinateur l'impression d'un texte restitué par cœur et trop récité.

Pardonnez-moi, mais il y a pas mal d'erreurs dans votre texte et d'expressions qui semblent traduites mot à mot du français. par exemple, "theatre piece" m'a sauté aux yeux; un pièce de théâtre c'est bien sûr " a play". N'oubliez pas non plus qu'on vous demande d'analyser les œuvres, pas d'en faire un résumé.

L'épreuve de LELE est finalement assez difficile: il faut dire beaucoup de choses en seulement cinq minutes, le tout pour un coefficient assez faible.
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Je suis d'accord avec Botchan c'est une épreuve complexe où il faut avoir bien compris les différentes œuvres et essayer de trouver des axes de traitement des thématiques .Mais ce n'est pas toujours faisable car là nous ne sommes pas en vis à vis avec l'élève pour le guider et j'essaie de respecter leur travail avant tout.

Parfois , assez souvent je suis plus "interventioniste " car les élèves n'ont parfois pas du tout le vocabulaire adéquat (et cela n'est pas exclusivement de leur fait ; Combien de fois ai-je vu(pour les notions) "seats and exchanges"pour "places and exchanges" ou des élèves perdus dans "initiatory journey" et qui me décrivent le déroulement d'une "journée"? 🙄

Par contre je ne pense pas qu'il faille dire "beaucoup de choses en cinq minutes " (je comprends ce que Botchan a voulu dire)

Il ne faut pas perdre de vue que c'est une épreuve de langue et la qualité de l'anglais prime.

C'est pourquoi je corrige l'ensemble de ce qui est écrit car bien sûr il ne s'agit pas de réciter ce qui est ici écrit ,mais je comprends qu'un (e) élève de terminale se sécurise ainsi(pour mieux s'en détacher )
Je me méfie beaucoup de ceux qui me disent sur ce site : Ok j'ai les grandes lignes ,j'improviserai …..

Helpneedhelp , je n'ai pas trouvé le temps ce soir de corriger tes notions , j'essaie demain.
Je ne parlais pas de "grandes lignes" mais de notes détaillées sans être entièrement rédigées. La récitation d'un texte rédigé et mémorisé me rebute en tant qu'examinateur.

Bien sûr un élève à l'anglais fluide et de bonne qualité s'en sortira toujours, mais la grille de correction mentionne quand même la "perception de l'implicite", la "mise en perspective pertinente des documents dans leur environnement littéraire", une "appréciation esthétique" et un "jugement critique personnel" en plus du vocabulaire, de la syntaxe etc qui sont aussi mentionnés dans la grille.
Botchan

Oui je connais cette grille et c'est pour ça qu'il vaut mieux avoir bien préparé l'ensemble de ce que l'on va dire . 🙂

Je ne vous citais pas quand je parlais "des grandes lignes" je parlais des élèves qui avaient ce genre d'attitude .
Mais vous l'aviez compris ….

Donc la syntaxe et le vocabulaire étant parfois hésitants il est bon de les corriger , non?

Il est vrai que c'est une tâche longue et ingrate.

Helpneedhelp


Voici les corrections que je vous propose (en majuscules)




THE THEME I HAVE CHOSEN is the characters and their transformation. First of all I will give a quick definition, a character can be flat, minor or major and developed with depth. He will face some transformationS, which could change his PERSONALITY, or his way OF LEADING HIS liFE. So how do the transformation impact the characters ?

To answer THIS ISSUE I will STUDY three texts, Frankenstein by Mary Shelley, Ghost by Paul Auster, Waiting for Godot by Samuel Becket and a poster from the movie The man who made a monster.




First of all, Ghost was written by Paul Auster and published in 1986. His literary genre joins in the postmodernism which IS a parody of the search of THE MEANING in life that we spot in modernism.(phrase peu claire) So, the story is about a detective named, Blue. He's a private investigator and IS employed by a man called White, TO follow his(?) husband named Black. BLUE becomes a kind of slave for White. It's THEN that the transformation appearS. Basically Blue is a detective, he has the capacity OF recognizing an imposter and here he dOESNT SEE that something IS wrong with White. (je ne sais pas quel temps choisir car vous mettez du présent puis du passé,pouvez vous revoir ce passage, merci) He becomes a doll, living in White's appartment, receiving incomes from White, he finally loses his free-will. We can think that this text is a kind of parody, tOLD by an omniscient narrator, because : atention ,ce n'est pas une relation de cause à effet:il faut trouver dans le texte des exemples qui montrent que nous avons ce point de vue) Si les noms des personnages sont des couleurs: qu'apprend-t-on sur les personnages? of the name of the characters are colors). we can also underline the LACK of identity (OK), because names are actually a part of our identities. There is also a" mise en abime" in the novel, that is to say that we have a novel in an novel. So, here, the impact of the transformation is visible, that is to say that we have a "man" who GOES from BEING a private investigator to a personal investigator. He becomes a kind of puppet and loses his family AND friendS and in a certain way his job, because he only workS for White and gETS his incomes from him.(could he be the ghost or is it another person?)


Frankenstein by Mary Shelley was realesed in 1816.IT IS A GOTHIC NOVEL , often describeD as a genre written by women for women.(qui a dit cela?) ThE STORY evolves with time, going from A simple horror story FULL OF cursed destinies and monsters to A storY about the psychological aspect of human BEINGS. The written style is really sustainedwhat is expected fOR the 19th century, with some specific words as bier.(il faut trouver une phrase et attention les écrivains modernes sont tout aussi fins et leurs language soutenu!) This story is about Victor Frankenstein and his wife, just after their wedding (=le jour du marriage). Here, there is different kind of transformation: firstly, there is the death of Elizabeth, usually, during the nuptial night, people proove their love to each other, but not here. Vincent(??) asked Elizabeth to go alone in the room of the couple. And instead of being loved in this room, she is killed by the monster. So she passes from life to death. Victor must face the death of his wife and in one single day, becomes a widower, because of the creature he created. The monster, jeers of all these misfortunes, because he succeeds to kill the woman that stole his creator from him. The transformations impact more on tHE CHARACTERS' LIVES thaN on their nature even if facing death is emotionally difficult.
I can also add a poster of the movie, The man who made a monster which illustrates perfectly the text by the gloomy and dark visual. We have different representation of all the characters, often Victor and Elizabeth are together and seems really happy, but the monster is alone and he seems to feel LONELY AND SAD (donc ici il y a déjà trois documents …)



Waiting for Godot was written by Samuel Becket in 1952, This play made a lot of noise by ITS absurdity AND NONSENSE(( The litterature trend in the theater of the absurd which designe particular play and absurd fiction.))que signifie cette phrase??? To sum up the play, two men, Estragon and Vladimir are waiting for someone who is called Godot, we don't really know if he's a real person. The scene takes place in an empty setting, with only a kind of dead tree. I think that the place was made like that to make the spectators FOCUS ON the characters and their discussions/ IT SEEMS TO BE a meaninglesS dialogue with small sentences and sometimes some puns (lesquels, vous n'étudiez pas assez la forme), like the one with the weeping willow.(??) Here the transformation is really hard to find but if we look further, we can spot a change of behavior. At the beginning, it is Estragon who ASKS Vladimir when Godot IS comING and afterWARDS Vladimir IS THE ONE WHO COMES UP WITH THE QUESTION. Here, the transformation is more a kind of game, one asks a question, the other answerS IT and after they DO the opposite, and we can say that this is absurd because if the other asks this question, it's because he doesn't know the answeR, so it's an endless game. ((But, this transformation doesn't really impact the characters, because for waiting someone that you don't know you must be crazy, and it's what they are, crazy Si vous dites : voici la transformation et qu'ensuite vous dites qu'elle n'a pas d'impact, vous faites "tomber" votre argument premier)))
Pourquoi ne pas parler du rôle dominant /dominé de la pièce car si les deux hommes paraissent à égalité au début,ils ne le sont plus à la fin.

Ce "godot" n'est-il pas ce fameux GOD , ce Dieu que nous recherchons et qui nous apporterait des réponses à nos questions?


In conclusion, the transformation has a MAJOR impact on SOME OF the characters, for INSTANCE FOR Vincent Frankenstein: his love is taken away from him. Sometimes HOWEVER the characters are actually so strange or crazy, that the transformation HAS LESS impact, like in Waiting for Godot(je ne suis pas d'accord). So, I think that the impact depends ON the personality the author gives his characters in order to DELIVER a message.



Je pense qu'il faut être plus précis, parler plus du fond ….cela me semble un peu "survolé"Essayez de le retravailler
OK?
Merci beaucoup pour la correction, du coup je vais encore reprendre quelques analyses comme vous me l'avez conseillé ! Mais j'avoue que ce thème est un peu plus compliqué que mon premier où je suis plus à l'aise !