#21 24/04/2008 11:03

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- Merci !
- Oui, apparemment, c'était un discours d'élection...
- Merci, je vais essayer de l'exploiter !

COUNTRY

  Positive arguments

      1- Nature around:
To begin with, one of the best advantages (most important advantages ?) is the life in symbiosis with the nature. Indeed, living in the country is living in the middle of vegetation and enjoy what the nature offers us. On the evening, when you go out, you can get pleasure out of beautiful landscapes composed of trees, fields of wheat, valleys, bushes and animals: *you have the luck to* be a witness to a magic sight.

      2- Quiet life:
Besides, the country is a very quiet *place of life*. In fact, while living in the country, you live with people used to respect the silence. To make up in silence, to get up in silence, to have breakfast in silence is very relaxing, it is an important fact to be in good health.

*...* Ce que j'ai traduit "mot à mot" avec un dictionnaire, et donc sans doute faux.

Je trouve le deuxième paragraphe peu développé et mal construit, j'aimerais votre opinion !

Merci beaucoup,
Zadek

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#22 24/04/2008 12:46

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Zadek
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COUNTRY[/b]

  Positive arguments

      1- Nature *around:
To begin with, one of the **best advantages (most important advantages ?) is            life in symbiosis with       nature. Indeed, living in the country is living in the middle of vegetation and enjoy what the nature offers us. On the evening, when you go out, you can get pleasure out of beautiful landscapes composed of trees, fields of wheat, valleys, bushes and animals: you have the ***luck to be a witness to a ****magic sight.

      2- Quiet life:
Besides, the country is a very quiet place *****of life. In fact, while living in the country, you live with people used to °respect the silence. To make up in silence, to get up in silence, to have breakfast in silence is very relaxing, it is an important fact to be in good health.

*Surroundings, environment
**good/better/best (qualitatif) great/greater/greatest ou big/bigger/biggest (quantitif).
*** good luck (or better good fortune) or chance
****Magic is a noun.
*****Infinitive.
° Gerund.
(2) Meeting country folk with their wisdom from centuries of experience. Village traditions.
Possibility to raise chickens and collect eggs. Have a domestic animal who is not afraid to go outdoors alone. Keep a pony or a goat. Not all town houses have gardens: growing vegetables, fruit trees. Own a larger house: more convenient for raising a bigger family or inviting friends.

{Of course, it's better not to take into account the noise from heavy farm machinery passing the door or the aeroplanes passing overhead from the nearby Airforce base, or the smells from the local piggery..... }

En ce qui concerne article/pas d'article, je n'ai rien trouvé de simple sur la toile, mais ces liens pourraient t'être utiles.

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La moralité moderne veut que l'on accepte les normes de son époque. Qu'un homme cultivé puisse les accepter me semble la pire des immoralités. (O. Wilde)

#23 24/04/2008 19:14

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C'est gentil de prendre du temps à me corriger et m'accompagner dans mon apprentissage de l'anglais ! Mais, en ce qui concerne du "j'ai du mal à développer mon deuxième paragraphe", je parlais du "Quiet Life", parce qu'en fait, on a établi en cours plusieurs thèmes comme celui-ci et je ne peux pas étoffer d'autres arguments (pour ceux qui souhaitent rendre leur travail) ! Je suis un peu gêné de devoir vous dire que ce que vous avez cherché pour moi ne peut être réinvesti dans mon travail... C'est simplement (...) Quiet Life qui m'embête un peu: je n'arrive pas à développer !

Merci de tout votre investissement,
Zadek

#24 24/04/2008 19:30

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En fait, comme j'indiquais, ce n'est pas si silencieux que ça, vivre à la campagne.
Ce sont souvent les cloches de l'église qui me réveillent à 7h du mat' .
(Elles ponctuent trois fois la journée du travail).

Mais on y repose, on y retrouve ses "origines", on recharge les battéries pour les jours de travail qui viennent.

#25 25/04/2008 12:20

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Merci beaucoup ^^ Il faut dire que j'habite moi-même à la campagne, mais loin de l'église donc généralement, ce sont les poules du voisin qui ont l'affront de me réveiller !

J'ai donc développé, à l'aide de vos idées, le paragraphe sur le coût onéreux du logement et l'importance du crime en ville !

More crime:
Besides, there is more and more crime in the town than in the city. If your accommodation is in the suburbs, you run the risk to have your car stolen, to be mugged, to be raped and to be killed. Suberbs have a bad repute because of the violence which prevails in them; that's why town are a very dangerous place to live.

Expensive housing:
Finally, when people go to live in the town, it's because they will find accommodations but what they don't know is that the housing is more and more expensive. Indeed, a person who pay a lot of money will be able to have a big apartment in the center of the town, but an underprivileged person will have to take a little apartment on the outskirts of the town. It is only interesting for rich people because they have privileges in the center of the city which you don't have in the periphery.

Ensuite, le bruit dans la campagne (encore grâce à vos idées) :

Quiet Life:
Besides, the country is a very quiet place to live. In fact, living in the country is very relaxing thanks to the calm typical of the campaign. Naturally, the country is not characterized by a silence as the grave but the only noises you can hear are the Church's bell,  the animal's scream, a tractor... And never car's horn or uproar all the night. Moreover, while living in the country, you live with people used to respecting the calm and people used to giving you a warm welcome.

En bleu, j'ai coloré tout ce que j'ai ajouté !
Je vous remercie beaucoup,
Zadek

#26 25/04/2008 12:28

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Zadek a écrit :

More crime:
Besides, there is *more and more crime in the town than in the city. If your accommodation is in the suburbs, you run the risk **to have your car stolen, to be mugged, to be raped and to be killed. Suberbs have a bad repute because of the violence which prevails in them; that's why town are a very dangerous place to live.

Expensive housing:
Finally, when people go to live in the town, it's because they will find accommodation but what they don't know is that the housing is more and more expensive. Indeed, a person who pay a lot of money will be able to have a big apartment in the ***center of the town, but an underprivileged person will have to take a little apartment on the outskirts of the town. It is only interesting for rich people because they have privileges in the center of the city which you don't have in the periphery.


Quiet Life:
Besides, the country is a very quiet place to live. In fact, living in the country is very relaxing thanks to the calm typical of the campaign. Naturally, the country is not ****characterized by a silence as the grave but the only noises you can hear are the Church's bell,  the animal's scream, a tractor... And never car's horn or uproar all the night. Moreover, while living in the country, you live with people used to respecting the calm and people used to giving you a warm welcome.

* an increasing crime rate (taux de criminalité)
** a gerund would be better than the infinitive
*** To this American spelling, I prefer the English 'centre'
**** Idem   'characterised'

#27 25/04/2008 12:40

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Quelle rapidité ! Comme toujours d'ailleurs ! J'ai regardé, modifié, et quelques petites choses me tourment !

More crime:
Besides, there is an increasing crime rate more important in the town than in the country. If your accommodation is in the suburbs, you run the risk having your car stolen, to be mugged, to be raped and to be killed. Suberbs have a bad repute because of the violence which prevails in them; that's why towns are a very dangerous place to live.

Expensive housing:
Finally, when people go to live in the town, it's because they will find accommodation but what they don't know is that the housing is more and more expensive. Indeed, a person who pays a lot of money will be able to have a big apartment in the center of the town, but an underprivileged person will have to take a little apartment on the outskirts of the town. It is only interesting for rich people because they have privileges in the center of the city which you don't have in the periphery.


Quiet Life:
Besides, the country is a very quiet place to live. In fact, living in the country is very relaxing thanks to its typical calm. Naturally, the country is not characterised by a silence as the grave but the only noises you can hear are the Church's bell,  the animal's scream, a tractor... And never car's horn or uproar all the night. Moreover, while living in the country, you live with people used to respecting the calm and people used to giving you a warm welcome.

J'ai mis en rouge les mots ou expressions où je n'ai pas compris mon erreur !
J'ai fais une correction, reste-t-il des erreurs ?
En gras -> Mes modifications !
Sinon, pour l'américain, je n'ai pas dus fait attention à l'annotation du dictionnaire, excusez-moi !
Merci de votre travail,
Zadek

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#28 25/04/2008 12:50

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Always a pleasure with you, Z.

- Spelling
- repute = estime publique (house of ill-repute=bordel; a writer of little repute). Rather old-fashioned. Reputation is more common.
- conditional tense
- which 'privileges'? I don't understand.
- "silent as the grave" is a common metaphor. It is unchangeable. Silence of the dead. As silent as the dead. Palpable silence.
- Very few animals "scream"; some screech, some growl, but most cry.
Humans scream!


"risk of having"

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#29 26/04/2008 15:09

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Merci pour cette correction ! Voici la "dernière tournée" ^^ !

II- COUNTRY:

  1- Positive arguments:

     c) No pollution:
Then, the country isn't as attacked by the pollution as the town. Indeed, country's roads are taken by few cars a day and country's inhabitants use their car very little. After that, countries are not usually related to the train, the plane or the underground... Moreover, people who live in the country respects the cleanness of the nature. So, it is true that the country is not polluted, which is a very important advantage for the people's health. [Trop peu développé ?]

    d) People help each other more:
Besides, the point that ther's less people in the country than in the town eases relations and people helps each other more. In fact, people who lives in a village *se connaissent tous entre eux*, which is a big advantage for the integration. Moreover, if you have a problem, all the people would give you help: it brings friendly relationships and a trust climate. [pas très inspiré: peu développé je trouve]

  2- Negative arguments:

    a) Few things to do:
To begin with, the most important drawback of living in the country is the absence of activities. Indeed, when a family move out to go to the country, it has to think about what its children would be able to do. In fact, the country offers its inhabitants very few activities, or even no activities. It is very tricky for the children because they can't practise sport in club without travel, they can't take part in the theatre, there isn't holiday activity center for schoolchildren to occupe their holidays. It is awkward for young people too who wan't go out to see a film at the cinema or to see a theatre play... Then, the family can't stay in the surrounding area if it wants to spend its weekend because there isn't many activities to do in the country.

    b) Far from everything:
Finally, living in the contry is living cut off from everything. Indeed, the country is not very lively, that's why factories prefer to set up somewhere else and the country's inhabitants are more and more dependent on the towns. In fact, the villages usually offers children a school but there is no high school and they have to go to the town by bus if the village is included in the distance of a bus, otherwise they have to go there by car. Moreover, there is seldoma grocery shop and hardly ever a supermarket; so mothers have to take her car to do some shopping. And when you work,you would have difficulties to find a decent job so you have to go to the town too. So living in the country is very inconvenient because you need take your car several once a day.

*...* Expression que je n'ai pas pu traduire !
En rouge: "plusieurs fois par jour" -> Traduction peu sure ^^

Merci de votre aide,
Zadek

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#30 26/04/2008 15:33

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Zadek a écrit :

II- COUNTRY:

  1- Positive arguments:

     c) No pollution:
Then, the country isn't as affected by the pollution as the town. Indeed, country roads are taken by few cars a day and the country's inhabitants use their car very little*. Adter that, **countries are not usually related to the train, the plane or the undderground... Moreover, people who live in the country respects the cleanness of          nature. So, it is true that the country is not _________ polluted***, which is a very important advantage for the people's health. [Trop peu développé ?]

    d) People help each other more:
Besides, the point that ther's ****less people in the country than in the town eases relations and people helps each other more. In fact, people who lives in a village *****se connaissent tous entre eux, which is a big advantage for          integration. Moreover, if you have a problem, all the people would give you help: it brings friendly relationships and a  climate of trust. [pas très inspiré: peu développé je trouve]

  2- Negative arguments:

    a) Few things to do:
To begin with, the most important drawback of living in the country is the absence of activities. Indeed, when a family move out to go to the country, it has to think about what its children would be able to do. In fact, the country offers its inhabitants very few activities, or even no activities. It is very tricky for the children because they can't practise sport in a club without travelling, they can't take part in the theatre, there isn't holiday activity center for schoolchildren to occupe their holidays. It is awkward for young people too who wan't go out to see a film at the cinema or to see a theatre play... Then, the family can't stay in the surrounding area if it wants to spend its weekend because there isn't many activities to do in the country.

    b) Far from everything:
Finally, living in the contry is living cut off from everything. Indeed, the country is not very lively, that's why factories prefer to set up somewhere else and the country's inhabitants are more and more dependent on the towns. In fact, the villages usually offers children a school but there is no °high school and they have to go to the town by bus if the village is included in the distance of a bus, otherwise they have to go there by car. Moreover, there is seldom  a grocery shop and hardly ever a supermarket; so mothers have to take her car to do some shopping. And when you work,you would have difficulties to find a decent job so you have to go to the town too. So living in the country is very inconvenient because you need take your car several times during the week.

* Not true! There is very little public transport in the country (in France) so we have to use our cars a lot.
** Country = la campagne, mais country = pays aussi!
***Not really true either! Insecticides and chemical fertilisers really mess up the water!
****less = moins (on ne peut pas les compter), fewer = comparitif de few (one peut les compter)
*****will tend to know each other
° Although English people will recognise this American word which is sometimes also applied in England, I would prefer 'Secondary School'.

Fresh air
No pavements
Natural drainage
Country walks
Horse Riding
Bicycle
Jogging
Gardening
Sunbathing
Barbecue
Nosy neighbours
Fruit stealers
Garage sales
Feast of Saint John with bonfire

You're starting to be rather repetitive in your words ("activities" for instance) and arguments.